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#1 2008-02-13 16:46:57

Greg.0
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1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

Good news everyone,

A project called "1541 Ultimate" seems to be nearly on final stage.

This twenty-one century new drive for Commodore 64 will be able to emulate, on a fpga, all the instructions and specificity of a real floppy drive... with IEC connexion (and / or cartidge slot)

Better see yourself:
http://commodore-gg.hobby.nl/innovatie_ … rt_eng.htm

I contacted gideonz for a pre order, and now, wait for it . (on retrohackers.com forum)

In the Futur: Test load and save from Prophet64

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#2 2008-02-13 17:24:30

KONEY
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

cool! But one can attach a real drive to that connector?

One more problem, uses the cart slot. No way to fit a P64 after...

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#3 2008-02-13 17:32:36

Greg.0
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

The 1541 Ultimate plug into the C64 by the serial IEC... Yeah !

Use the cart slot offer more menu conviviality and other stuff...

Koney, You can see a video demo (u1541_4.avi) on page 3 of the retrohacker forum. It show a stand-alone use of the monster...

Last edited by Greg.0 (2008-02-13 17:48:28)

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#4 2008-02-13 18:04:00

KONEY
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

Ok so one can plug it into the drive and the drive into the computer, so to transfer floppies to and from the memory card. THis whay it's REALLY cool!

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#5 2008-02-29 12:42:35

Greg.0
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

A new web site for the project : http://www.1541ultimate.net

Last week GideonZ sent me a mail about the next step of the developpement. And this is the stand alone mode !!

And the stand alone mode mean: A C64 + a 1541-Ultimate... And that's all ! Load and save directly from / to the SD-card, or MMC-card...   big_smile

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#6 2008-05-14 19:47:43

Greg.0
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

I received the 1541 Ultimate last week...
Don't have time to test before...

But now i can say: It's work like a charme with Prophet cart !!!

Here the tests i made: (Click on the pictures for bigger)


http://stuffprojects.free.fr/pictures_links/C64/1541U/1541U_CartMode_Mini.JPG
1. Plug the 1541U into the cart port of the C64, and the iec serial cable 1541U to C64 too.
By this way, the 1541U is power supplied by the C64.


http://stuffprojects.free.fr/pictures_links/C64/1541U/1541U_CreateFile_Mini.JPG http://stuffprojects.free.fr/pictures_links/C64/1541U/1541U_Dir_Mini.JPG
2. Insert a blank fat sd card and use 1541U menu to create a "blank disk" (it's create into a .d64 format)


http://stuffprojects.free.fr/pictures_links/C64/1541U/1541U+Prophet64_Mini.JPG
3. Remove the 1541U from the C64 cart slot, now need to be power supplied by a mini USB cable... (Did it from my PC). And Plugin the Prophet64 Cart...

http://stuffprojects.free.fr/pictures_links/C64/1541U/1541U_Buttons.JPG
4. Just use the 1541U Right / Left Button to navigate to the wanted .d64 (without viewing it...) And the middle one to attach the file.


http://stuffprojects.free.fr/pictures_links/C64/1541U/1541U_SaveP64_Mini.JPG
5. Save the demo synth to DSK.


http://stuffprojects.free.fr/pictures_links/C64/1541U/1541U_SearchP64_Mini.JPG http://stuffprojects.free.fr/pictures_links/C64/1541U/1541U_SectP64_Mini.JPG http://stuffprojects.free.fr/pictures_links/C64/1541U/1541U_LoadP64_Mini.JPG
6. Search, select and load my P64 file...


I really want to thank Gideon Zweijtzer for this wonderfull project !

I wish you to read more on his website, this 1541U is amazing... More lot of fonctionality... and other funny stuff ! (like real 1541 working sound emulation !!!)

Last edited by Greg.0 (2008-05-19 23:29:28)

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#7 2008-05-19 12:48:54

ron
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

As with all devices that use USB as a power source only, you might use just any 5V PSU instead, or even run off batteries since USB power specifications are granted for relatively low current...

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#8 2008-05-19 13:31:16

Greg.0
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

That's right ! USB is use only for power source...

I'm thinking about use a old datasette conector to use the 5V of the C64... Easy to find and cheap !

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#9 2008-05-19 23:35:39

Greg.0
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

Just update the precent post with add pictures of the test...

If you want me to test something else: Just Ask ! wink

oh, and if a alien want to offer me a mssiah cart, i can test it with pleasure big_smile

Last edited by Greg.0 (2008-05-19 23:40:28)

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#10 2008-05-20 23:28:25

Greg.0
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

I'm gonna send me to Outer Thread...
http://stuffprojects.free.fr/pictures_links/C64/1541U/1541U_LN_Mini.JPG
...To find another game.

I'm sorry Tonka, i've tried 4 different version of "Mayhem in Monsterland"... But it doesn't work...

Last edited by Greg.0 (2008-05-21 12:07:31)

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#11 2008-05-25 01:12:34

firebrandboy
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

i am on the pre-order list. so does this mean i can compose a song in p64 sequencer and save to the 1541-ultimate? please confirm! smile

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#12 2008-05-25 16:10:48

ron
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

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#13 2008-05-25 20:20:35

Greg.0
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

Ok, so i do all the test about load / save with the prophet64 + the 1541U.

Everything working great !!! with the sequencer: save / load, export / import sequences and instruments...

"Convert to PSID" is Ok... wink

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#14 2008-06-16 12:27:46

firebrandboy
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

paid for my pre-order today!

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#15 2008-06-16 12:31:06

firebrandboy
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

Greg.0 wrote:

You're welcome !

Must
Now
Sell
Something...

Please sell me a CD album from you wink

greg! when loading and saving from prophet64 do you need to create a directory on the sd or anything first?

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#16 2008-06-16 14:47:47

Greg.0
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

No need to create a directory. Your SD card must be FAT formated, and you have to create a "Blank .d64 disk" by the 1541 Ultimate menu (when it's in the cart port) or use an other ready .d64 file disk.

When you are in stand alone mode, you can not see the .d64 file browser. So you have to select the chosen file by using 1st (up) and 3th (down) buttons, in the "dark" and the 2nd button to load .d64 in 1541U memory...

For easy use, it's better to not create directory in first time... If you have only one .d64 file on your SD card, you just have to press the 2nd (middle) button of the 1541U to chose it...

Chose a .d64 file from the menu or by the buttons is like "push" a disk in a real drive wink

Last edited by Greg.0 (2008-06-16 14:48:01)

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#17 2008-06-20 17:40:37

firebrandboy
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

just got mine today but didn't realise that you needed a 1541 cable as well. no saving until after the weekend smile

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#18 2008-06-20 18:14:11

Greg.0
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

If you have a midi cable DIN to DIN you can use it as serial IEC !!!  wink


(edit after wake up) All my excuse, what I said here is totally untrue!... midi cable can't be use as iec cable...

Last edited by Greg.0 (2008-09-05 23:24:42)

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#19 2008-06-21 12:51:37

firebrandboy
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

got the midi din cable but i can't seem to get it working. i've tried what you said.

- created blank .d64
- connect to usb
- insert p64
- use middle button to load .d64 (its the only one on the SD card)

then whilst using p64's sequencer i make a little sequence and click save but nothing really happens.

EDIT - this seems to be a problem with using the atari mouse with p64 and trying to save. if i make a track and then unplug the mouse i can save okay! i'm going to start working on some c64 tracks tonight at long last!

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#20 2008-06-22 23:41:03

firebrandboy
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

the ultimate is fucking awesome.

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#21 2008-06-23 14:26:42

firebrandboy
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

:p

i was on the pre-order list for the first batch.

i just wish i was't such a newb with sequencer and had a nice modded c64.

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#22 2008-06-25 21:27:45

Greg.0
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

i have a basic* 1541 Ultimate from the first batch (looking for this project since long month...)

(*no longer avaible, without memory add and a little bit cheaper)

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#23 2008-08-11 16:47:03

Greg.0
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

There is now a new version of the 1541 Ultimate ...
An Ethernet port has been added to it! This will allow us, through additional software, to add network functionality to hte C64... smile

Maybe one day we can synchronize thousand of C64 in the world and make our SID scream together!

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#24 2008-08-11 21:14:43

Cybertronic
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

I also read something about an expander card included so you can have both the 1541 AND the Prophet 64 plugged in together. But their card is way too expensive for my budget... but this works nicely!

http://www.nkcelectronics.com/mmc2iec-c … devic.html

No blocking the cart slot and it has external PSU port and you could hook this up in a series just like the original 1541 for use of printer or something.

Last edited by Cybertronic (2008-08-12 19:29:35)

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#25 2008-08-19 00:46:00

cephallus
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Re: 1541 Ultimate: A working solution to LOAD and SAVE with Prophet64

Thank you so much for being the guinea pig and posting about this! I contacted Gideon and he still has ~10 of the original units available. Finally a real-world, workable solution to using the little breadbox as a portable sequencer/tracker with P64!

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