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#1 2006-07-09 16:55:54

tRasH cAn maN
Dan Dare
From: Sweden
Registered: 2006-07-09
Posts: 70
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Pro's and con's of the P64

I thought I'll start a thread of pro's and con's.
Hopefully the alien maker of P64 will read this and take it into account when developing ver. 2! wink

Pro's
Midi sync support
Mouse support
Second SID support
Lovely writen manual

Con's
Simple instrument page
No triplets or other uncommon note lengths
Only 4/4 time signature
One slide value per instrument
Settings can't be saved
Only one bar long parts can be created with pencil tool (for longer parts you'll have to make several parts and glue them together)
Not to many keyboard shortcuts
Only one LFO
Modulations of the filter is resticted to the one LFO or a ADSR envelope
No filemanager (deleting files and formatind disks)

Please keep in mind that these are my personal thoughts and that I'm posting them here in hopes that there will be a second version of P64 that would take a deeper use of the SID chip. I find P64 to be a wonderfull piece of software as it is today, I just feel there are a few thing that could be improved to make it perfect!

I'm hoping the lists will increase by other users (esecially the first!).

Love,
tCm

:edit:
WTF! They're callng me a GI-Joe!! big_smile

Last edited by tRasH cAn maN (2006-07-14 02:31:10)

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#2 2006-07-10 01:39:21

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Re: Pro's and con's of the P64

Pro:
Rocks like Hell!!


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#3 2006-07-10 16:12:56

Jaicen
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Re: Pro's and con's of the P64

I haven't even got my copy of the new P64 software, but it all looks brilliant to me!  I especially like the idea of not having to boot my PC to sequence stuff, particularly late at night.

Anyway, here are my thoughts:


Pro's
Extremely cheap!
Plug & Play cart (ROM version would be nice wink )
Real retro pre-sets

Con's

No battery memory, would be nice for saving inst patches etc.

 

#4 2006-07-11 02:55:31

8bitapocalypse
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From: Birmingham, UK
Registered: 2006-07-09
Posts: 31
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Re: Pro's and con's of the P64

for the sequencer...

pros
wavetable in the instrument section
the 2 hubbard kicks!
like using modern software such as cubase/logic
cheap and easy authentic sid synthesis solution

cons
timing a bit 'off' sometimes
no manual (yet!)

heres my set up... need more space!

http://www.happyrobotmusic.co.uk/images/c64/prophet64.jpg

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#5 2006-07-11 03:13:23

KONEY
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From: VENICE - ITALY
Registered: 2006-07-08
Posts: 1062
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Re: Pro's and con's of the P64

Your setup with that ol' telly rocks!

Must post mine one....

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#6 2006-07-12 19:35:20

Slorrin
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Re: Pro's and con's of the P64

i thikn he means you can't save setting to the cart, you have to save them using SDR or Disk.

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#7 2006-07-13 00:17:53

Slorrin
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Re: Pro's and con's of the P64

I'm nebulus now.. whatever that is.. i like gianana's sister better.. i wonder what is the next level of poster!

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#8 2006-07-13 00:21:33

firestARTer
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Re: Pro's and con's of the P64

Slorrin wrote:

I'm nebulus now.. whatever that is.. i like gianana's sister better.. i wonder what is the next level of poster!

I know it ;-)



And Nebulus is the well known green monster :-) Just search for it!


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#9 2006-07-13 01:33:01

Slorrin
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Re: Pro's and con's of the P64

Hopefully, the top name you can have is "Spy vs. Spy 2: Arctic Antics"

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#10 2006-07-13 02:26:12

tRasH cAn maN
Dan Dare
From: Sweden
Registered: 2006-07-09
Posts: 70
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Re: Pro's and con's of the P64

Haha!
I wanna be Bouble bouble!

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#11 2006-07-13 21:47:44

FriendlyFire
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From: Berlin
Registered: 2006-07-10
Posts: 205
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Re: Pro's and con's of the P64

A lot of PRO's here, same like mine.
but another Con: there is no filemanager

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#12 2006-07-14 00:10:49

Slorrin
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Re: Pro's and con's of the P64

but there are file managers for windows PCs and DOS pcs and probably macs..

like CBM4WIN and Star Commander

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#13 2006-07-14 00:17:14

FriendlyFire
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Re: Pro's and con's of the P64

yes there are a lot of file managers, but it would be good to delete files on a disc or using other devicenumbers under prophet....mangage files, not only loading and saving

Last edited by FriendlyFire (2006-07-14 00:18:24)

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#14 2006-07-18 15:38:36

tRasH cAn maN
Dan Dare
From: Sweden
Registered: 2006-07-09
Posts: 70
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Re: Pro's and con's of the P64

Slorrin wrote:

i thikn he means you can't save setting to the cart, you have to save them using SDR or Disk.

Yes. And since there aren't that many settings to speak of, it's probably faster to changce them every time you start up the sequencer! tongue

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#15 2006-07-24 16:52:40

KONEY
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From: VENICE - ITALY
Registered: 2006-07-08
Posts: 1062
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Re: Pro's and con's of the P64

Another CON's that I think next version should fix:

THE CART CANT BE BYPASSED by a software option or a switch.

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