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#1 2009-04-08 10:37:39

Reverend Emi
GI-Joe
Registered: 2009-03-04
Posts: 19

A reasonable alternative to the 1541 drive?

After getting started with my first SID2SID, here's my newbie problem #2 big_smile
I'm trying to sum it up and choose a hardware device to save\load MSSIAH stuff, sequences, etc...

I was wondering whether in the end a reasonably priced 1541\1570\1571 floppy drive is the best solution in terms of costs\benefits. (I have no experience with those - is there any real difference between older\newer models or the difference is barely noticeable?)

All the new hardware available that I've looked  - 3.5" floppy drives, SD card readers, etc. -  seems good but also quite expensive. Is it  really worth the money in terms of quality, speed, reliability?
What about connecting the c64 to the PC with a cable?

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#2 2009-04-08 12:43:00

Tonka
PROPHET64 GURU
From: UK
Registered: 2007-02-08
Posts: 628
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Re: A reasonable alternative to the 1541 drive?

I would personally steer clear of the old 5 drives now.  They are so unreliable and getting GOOD new media for them is tricky.

The only 5 drive I would even consider using now would be a 1541-II with a Chinon/Sankyo direct drive mechanism, or an Oceanic OC-118 (aka Excelerator+), also direct driven.  Stay the hell away from belt drives, trust me.

The 3.5 1581 is probably the best Commie drive out there.  Loads of space, reliable media but sadly quite expensive.  You can get kits from some guy in Canada and fit your own drive, but the process (of obtaining a kit) is a bit like chewing on a big cactus.

If you don't mind hooking up to a PC, the C64TPC is pretty much untouchable right now with regards to price and reliability.  Otherwise, wait for firestARTers SDR save gizmo.

Tonka

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#3 2009-04-08 16:44:45

booker
Bloody beginner
Registered: 2009-04-02
Posts: 6

Re: A reasonable alternative to the 1541 drive?

Reverend Emi wrote:

After getting started with my first SID2SID, here's my newbie problem #2 big_smile
I'm trying to sum it up and choose a hardware device to save\load MSSIAH stuff, sequences, etc...

I was wondering whether in the end a reasonably priced 1541\1570\1571 floppy drive is the best solution in terms of costs\benefits. (I have no experience with those - is there any real difference between older\newer models or the difference is barely noticeable?)

All the new hardware available that I've looked  - 3.5" floppy drives, SD card readers, etc. -  seems good but also quite expensive. Is it  really worth the money in terms of quality, speed, reliability?
What about connecting the c64 to the PC with a cable?

Depends how much you want to spend on it. Basic 1541Ultimate (no ethernet) is about 119Euros but with it you forget about any compability issues once for all.

Last edited by booker (2009-04-08 16:45:36)

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#4 2009-04-09 04:06:18

vince64
Bomb Jack
From: Netherlands
Registered: 2007-02-07
Posts: 34

Re: A reasonable alternative to the 1541 drive?

oceanic drives.. luv them, got 5 for free from a mate with jiffy dos.. smile

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#5 2009-04-09 09:49:46

Tonka
PROPHET64 GURU
From: UK
Registered: 2007-02-08
Posts: 628
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Re: A reasonable alternative to the 1541 drive?

vince64 wrote:

oceanic drives.. luv them, got 5 for free from a mate with jiffy dos.. smile

Haha!  You lucky bugger!  I think they all have Jiffy DOS though (well, the two I've owned have)...


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#6 2009-04-09 12:13:56

ron
PROPHET64 GURU
From: berlin
Registered: 2006-07-08
Posts: 502
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Re: A reasonable alternative to the 1541 drive?

Tonka wrote:

I think they all have Jiffy DOS though (well, the two I've owned have)...

Umm, don't think so - i've had two of them and both had C= DOS 2.6 (or alike) installed. BTW: in Germany they were rebranded by "REX Datentechnik" (who also rebranded the quickbyte II EPROMmer). So if you see a REX 1541 floppy clone it looks like the OC-118 it's virtually the same thing...

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#7 2009-04-09 13:31:14

Tonka
PROPHET64 GURU
From: UK
Registered: 2007-02-08
Posts: 628
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Re: A reasonable alternative to the 1541 drive?

ron wrote:

Tonka wrote:

I think they all have Jiffy DOS though (well, the two I've owned have)...

Umm, don't think so - i've had two of them and both had C= DOS 2.6 (or alike) installed. BTW: in Germany they were rebranded by "REX Datentechnik" (who also rebranded the quickbyte II EPROMmer). So if you see a REX 1541 floppy clone it looks like the OC-118 it's virtually the same thing...

Oops, sorry!  It was just an assumption based on what I've seen and the fact that vince has 5 of them!  smile


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#8 2009-04-10 04:03:07

ron
PROPHET64 GURU
From: berlin
Registered: 2006-07-08
Posts: 502
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Re: A reasonable alternative to the 1541 drive?

Who knows if there were different ROMS in different designs though and we both assumed right wink

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